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Slate Roof Leaks in Hilton Village, Newport News, Virginia

This 1948 built home in Hilton, Newport News, has an original slate roof. As you can see from the pictures, a competitor of ours, using the “guess and goo” technique has tried to stop leaks on the roof with copious amounts of roof tar. This homeowner paid the other contractor for several attempts to fix the leaks which included tarring the slate and replacing some slate. Why are we different? We don’t guess, we test. We performed diagnostic water tests and located both leak sources in under 20 minutes.  WHY DIDNT ANYONE THINK OF THIS THE 1st TIME…or 2nd time…or 3rd time…?

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new copper valley on slate roof in norfolk, virginia

Slate Roof Repair in Norfolk Virginia

Slate roofs can be beautiful and last for over 100 years! But NOT if you repair then with tar and improper flashing. Most shingle roofers have no idea and don’t posses the proper tools to service slate roofs. We do!

Not too long ago I answered the question if you should replace your slate roof in Norfolk or Newport News here: Should you replace your leaking slate roof?

These pictures show the story of the leaking metal valley on the slate roof that caused all the interior damage and how it was replaced by a new copper valley.  No roof replacement necessary, just a proper repair!

Here are some more articles on roofing:

Selecting Shingles for Price & Quality in Hampton Roads

What will it be like when they replace my roof?

Should I get a ridgevent?

A new roof in the Kiln Creek neighborhood

How to find a roof leak

Should you replace your leaking slate roof?

Only the lucky people see the leaks

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Buckingham Slate Roof in the Ghent Neighborhood of Norfolk

Success Profile for Jim Hicks in Hampton Roads Magazine

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Should You Replace Your Leaking Slate Roof In Norfolk or Newport News

In our area of Virginia, known as Hampton Roads or Tidewater, there are still many slate roofs in key areas of  Yorktown, Virginia Beach, Newport News, Williamsburg, Chesapeake, Norfolk, Hampton, Suffolk, and Portsmouth.

The most common areas for Slate Roofs being in Ghent and Larchmont in Norfolk and Hilton Village and Huntington Heights in Newport News.

A question that we receive over and over is “I had a leak in my slate roof and a roofing contractor said I had to replace it, is that true?”  The short answer is “not necessarily.”

Slate may be the best roofing product ever used.  We are blessed by the fact that many of the roofs here in Virginia have Buckingham Slate on them from Arvonia in Buckingham County Virginia, which is known for some of the highest quality slate in the world and has been known to last over 120 years on Norfolk homes.

Buckingham Slate Quarry for Slate Roofing in Yorktown, Virginia Beach, Newport News, Williamsburg, Chesapeake, Norfolk, Hampton, Suffolk, Portsmouth
Buckingham Slate Company was founded in 1867

Some of the finest buildings in The United States have chosen Buckingham Slate s their roofing material.

Buckingham Slate Roof on Smithsonian Castle is the same slate on roofs inYorktown, Virginia Beach, Newport News, Williamsburg, Chesapeake, Norfolk, Hampton, Suffolk, Portsmouth
The Smithsonian Castle in Washington DC has a Buckingham Slate Roof

Buckingham Slate is very much like the Vermont Slate and not at all like softer Slate from Pennsylvania or the shallow slate quarries in China that are producing some Slate that isn’t even lasting 20 years installed.  Here is a video of the famous Camara Quarry in Vermont

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This piece of Buckingham Slate is 124 years old and looks almost identical to a piece that is produced new:This roofing slate will last just as long on roofs in Yorktown, Virginia Beach, Newport News, Williamsburg, Chesapeake, Norfolk, Hampton, Suffolk, Portsmouth

Oftentimes, leaks in Slate roofs have nothing to do with the Slate itself and more to do with flashings needing to be replaced due to the fact that the original roofers who installed the Slate roof not using a metal like copper and instead using galvanized flashing or galvanized nails.  The lesser quality metal will wear out long before the Slate has run it’s useful life.  The result is leaks in the roof, but leaks which can be repaired at a much lower expense than demolishing the entire roof and replacing it with asphalt shingles.

The most common leaks that are experienced on roofs are from plumbing pipe collar flashings, such as this one:

This pipe collar on a slate roof could be in Yorktown, Virginia Beach, Newport News, Williamsburg, Chesapeake, Norfolk, Hampton, Suffolk, Portsmouth
Pretty obvious that previous repair attempts were made by contractors that were not competent to work on Slate. “Tar” is not an acceptable specification.

Joe Jenkins, author of the Slate Roofing Bible shows the proper way to replace a pipe collar in this video:

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As you can probably tell, Slate work requires specialized tools and equipment and an entirely different skill set than the standard roofing contractor in Norfolk or Newport News.  We’ve been doing Slate Roofing in Yorktown, Virginia Beach, Newport News, Williamsburg, Chesapeake, Norfolk, Hampton, Suffolk, and Portsmouth for many years. We have the experience to diagnose any leak in your Norfolk Slate Roof and make any needed repairs.

Copper Flashing on brick chimney on a slate roof in Yorktown, Virginia Beach, Newport News, Williamsburg, Chesapeake, Norfolk, Hampton, Suffolk, Portsmouth
Here’s a Before Picture of a leaking brick chimney in a valley on a slate roof. This would be like brain surgery for most roofing contractors.

New soldered copper flashing on brick chimney on slate roof in Yorktown, Virginia Beach, Newport News, Williamsburg, Chesapeake, Norfolk, Hampton, Suffolk, Portsmouth
Here is the same chimney with new soldered copper flashing and new copper valley on the same Slate Roof. The valley will be finished by installing the remaining slates

Some of my other posts on slate:

Slate Roof Repair in Norfolk, Virginia: http://www.jimhicks.com/roofing/slate-roof-repair-in-norfolk-virginia/

Slate Roofing Inspectionhttp://www.jimhicks.com/roofing/slate-roofing-inspection/

One of my favorite articles on this subject is by Joe Jenkins:

Top 10 Mistakes Made When Installing
New Slate Roofs

by Joseph Jenkins

This article is from Traditional Roofing Magazine:

1. Lack of information: The contractors (and homeowners) have not done their homework. The contractor blindly bullies ahead with the job without making any effort whatsoever to do any research. A simple search on the internet can yield a wealth of information about slate roofs, sources of correct tools, materials, supplies and installation techniques.

2. All slate is not the same: You wouldn’t buy a car without looking at different models and checking their track record — and cars only last ten years and are cheaper than slate roofs! A slate roof is an investment in the future of your building. It will reasonably last 150 years if constructed correctly. There are many different types of slate with differing characteristics and longevities. Why buy a foreign slate with no track record? Do the research. [Source list of new roofing slate][Source list of salvaged roofing slate]

3. The contract documents are deficient:Every detail about the slate roof installation should be included in the contract documents — type, size and origin of the slate; type, length and gauge of the nails; type and installation style of underlayment; type and size of cant strip; headlap; flashing specifications; number of squares to be installed; slate installation style, and many other details. A basic contract (“Sample Slate Roof Installation Proposal”) is posted here.

4. Lack of headlap: This fundamental detail of any successful slate roof installation is hard to overlook, but it is ignored by some roofing contractors. Lack of adequate headlap spells disaster for a slate roof. I have seen new roofs with inadequate headlap (i.e. less than 2”), no headlap at all, and even negative headlap. Do your homework, contractors, or stay away from slate roof jobs. [An illustration of correct headlap and of incorrect headlap. Another example of incorrect headlap. ] Read an article about headlap.

5. Bad flashing work: There are two things that keep water from penetrating a slate roof: the slates and the flashings. Not only must the flashing metal be of adequate type and gauge, but it must be installed correctly. This is not rocket science, but it does require some training and/or experience in order to be done correctly and to be leakproof. [Source of good quality flashing material.]

6. No consultant was used on the job: As a consultant, I am called on after the work has been completed and the roof has failed — this is a mistake. Professional advice should be obtained before the roof is installed and even before the structure is built, if possible. However, not all slate roof installations require a consultant. Homeowners can educate themselves for very little money by simply reading a copy of the Slate Roof Bible, reading past Traditional Roofing articles online at traditionalroofing.com, and asking questions on the message board at slateroofcentral.com.

7. Contractors walking on the slate: This is one of the worst problems with new slate roof installations. Roof slate is not to be walked on — period. It is not a floor that is being installed — it is a roof. The roof must be properly staged so the roofers are working off roof ladders and roof scaffolds. If the contractors are walking all over the slate roof during installation, it’s because they don’t know what the hell they’re doing and the property owner will have many headaches later when the slates start falling off. This is a guarantee. Good slaters knows how to install slate, and they won’t walk on a slate roof unless it’s a last resort in an unusual circumstance. Need roof jacks?

8. Poor sheathing materials: The roof decking must last as long as the slate. A good roof deck should last the life of two slate roofs, or about 200 to 300 years. In any case, a roof decking material under slate must have a known longevity of at least 150 years. Materials that have been tried and proven for this purpose include lumber boards and battens from 3/4” to 1.5” thick rough-sawn, planed or tongue-in-grooved from a variety of species of wood. Plywood, laminated woods and particle boards are sub-standard roof decking materials for slate roofs and should be avoided. Yes, you can install slate on laminated or glued decking materials, but a compromise on longevity is likely to be the result. If a slate roof is to be built to last, the roof deck should be solid boards, not glued sheets of wood.

9. Emphasis on underlayment: This is a red herring. If a slate roof leaks, it’s because it was installed improperly, not because of underlayment or lack of it. Properly installed slate roofs need no underlayment. The main purpose of the underlayment is to keep the water out of the building until the slate and flashings are installed. After that, if you could magically yank the underlayment out from under the slate, it wouldn’t make a bit of difference in the functioning capabilities of the roof. Secondary purposes for underlayment include providing a good surface for chalk lines during installation, providing a minimal layer of insulation, and providing a cushion for when the slates are being slapped down during installation.
Barn slate roofs in the United States — and there were thousands and still are quite a few, mostly a century old or older — were installed without any underlayment whatsoever. This is true for some institutional buildings as well. Most of the older homes in the U.S. were installed with a standard single layer of 30 lb felt under the slate roofs. These homes are so old now that the felt has deteriorated to dust, but the roofs are fine. If the slates and flashings are intact, the roof will not leak, underlayment or no underlayment, even in a sustained driving rain. This is a proven fact, not a theory.

If a contractor or architect is insisting upon a beefed-up underlayment under a new slate roof installation, it means they believe the new roof will leak and that the underlayment will delay the entry of the water into the building. This is flawed logic and reveals a gross misunderstanding of slate roofs. Architects sometimes confuse slate roofs with ceramic tile roofs. Although tile roofs may require a substantial underlayment, slate roofs, properly installed, do not.

Underlayment does, however, provide a margin of waterproofing in the event a slate roof is damaged by wind, tree-fall, or other unusual circumstance. An acceptable slate roof installation today still typically utilizes a single layer of 30 lb. felt underlayment, doubled (half-lapped) when the need for a heavier underlayment is required (such as when a roof must be left exposed for a period of time before the slates are installed).

What about ice-damming? Increase the slate headlap along the eaves to prevent ice-damming, but do not rely on what’s underneath the slate to keep the roof from leaking. If the slate and flashings are installed correctly, the roof will not leak. That is the beauty of a stone roof. Ice Dams on Slate Roofs: How to Avoid Them
10. Inexperienced roofing contractors: It is an unfortunate fact that many contractors cannot be trusted to give sound and honest advice or information. This issue is exacerbated by property owners who don’t get competing bids before initiating a contract; who don’t educate themselves about the nature of the work prior to hiring a contractor; and who don’t insist upon a detailed, coherent and comprehensive contract document. One major effort that is being made today to try to screen contractors for slate roofing purposes is the Slate Roofing Contractors Association of North America, initiated on March 1, 2005. It lists contractor members at slateroofers.org.Included with the listing is a Contractor Profile which reveals details about the contracting firm that the average consumer would want to know. There is more information about the SRCA here.

Bad slate roof installations are seriously harming the slate roofing industry. One university administrator told me he had slate roofs installed on his dormitories because he wanted “the best roofs money could buy.” Then, after five large slate roofs had been installed on his campus by the same roofing contractor, it was discovered they had been installed with only 1.5” headlap, or none at all. The discovery of this gross deficiency left the administrator stunned, shocked and disgusted. He never wanted to look at another slate roof again. Who can blame him?

 

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Slate Roofing Inspection

Slate is a beautiful and durable roofing but it may require occasional repairs and service.

You may not need to completely replace your slate roof if you’ve sprung a leak or have localized problems, but it is important to to do a thorough inspection to determine the nature and the extent of the damage, if any.

While it’s recommended that you leave major slate repairs to your qualified Hampton Roads roofing contractor, you can always take a look for yourself.

5 Tips for Proper Slate Roofing Inspection

Here are five key tips:

  1. Safety First. Never walk on a slate roof to perform your inspection. Unlike asphalt shingles—which you should avoid walking on too if you can—slate roofs are smooth and don’t have the rough surface for traction. Instead, perform your inspection from a secure ladder, or use binoculars from the ground. Safety should always be on your mind.
  2. Weathering. If you notice that the slate appears spongy, abnormally thin, has scales along the edges, is delaminated or has whitish rings spreading across its surface, this may mean that the weather has weakened the slate and it needs replacement.
  3. Check for fastener failures. If the roof has cracks, holes or has missing pieces of slate, the fasteners may be the problem. In many cases, you need only replace the missing slate or damaged areas while leaving the rest of the roof as it is.
  4. Know your flashing failures. If you’re experiencing attic leaks, or if the chimney flashings appear black with ar, you may have what are known as “flashing failures.” Other signs of a flashing failure are corroded or leaky liners.
  5. Survey Says. A good rule of thumb: if more than one-quarter of the roof has fastener failures or more than one-quarter of the slate shingles are worn or damaged, replacing your slate roof in its entirety is something you should heavily consider.

If your slate roof requires repair or replacement, Jim Hicks Home Improvement is Hampton Roads most trusted roofer. Offering slate roofing installation and repair services, we provide affordable inspection, repair and replacement services that help you protect your investment while maintaining beautiful results. Call today to schedule your consultation!